tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1244044300216345080.post4368559931684290611..comments2024-03-04T10:20:10.154+00:00Comments on Anna Chen: Madam Miaow Says: Sharon Stone: karma cow towsMadam Miaowhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10237951918529887305noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1244044300216345080.post-70350824780083774302008-06-05T15:26:00.000+01:002008-06-05T15:26:00.000+01:00on topic you say?I agree with your statement:"...on topic you say?<br><br>I agree with your statement:<br><br><i>"while not giving a toss for the 95 per cent of the Tibetan population who were slaves and serfs, owned body and soul by the political elite,"</i><br><br>the problem is that is true nowadays, the Tibetans lives are controlled by an imposed elite, directed by the Party Secretary on behalf on dodgy old men in Beijing<br><br>so what's different?<br><br>socialists shouldn't be making excuses for EITHER ruling class (the CCP or the Dalai Lama) or haven't the lessons of the past 60 years been learnt? <br><br>PS: Louise, I have started an open thread on Tibet and the Middle East, so if you are up to substantiating your arguments against me then please do comment :)ModernityBloghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06354254639321208955noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1244044300216345080.post-81529413764762079382008-06-05T13:02:00.000+01:002008-06-05T13:02:00.000+01:00Mod: "haven't we been through this before...Mod: "haven't we been through this before?"<br><br>Precisely.<br><br>Can we stay on topic, please? Evil Chinese government ways is last on the left, through the bog, up the one-way street, and into the cul-de-sac on the other thread.Madam Miaowhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10237951918529887305noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1244044300216345080.post-10370066501808681322008-06-05T00:55:00.000+01:002008-06-05T00:55:00.000+01:00Louise,haven't we been through this before?as ...Louise,<br><br>haven't we been through this before?<br><br>as a Marxist could you give me one or two instances of the re-imposition of feudalism in the past, say 100 years??<br><br>surely they must roll off the tongue?? no asking Newman.<br><br>direct question: <br><br>do you think that Tibetans are deserving of national self-determination, eventually?<br><br>and if not, why not, in your own words<br><br><br>PS: I'm more than happy to discuss at length my views on Palestine, but please don't assume you know what they are, unless I've explained them? <br><br>just say so and I'll open a thread on my blog :)ModernityBloghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06354254639321208955noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1244044300216345080.post-46161816251617793972008-06-04T22:12:00.000+01:002008-06-04T22:12:00.000+01:00So, Modernity we are not allowed to criticise the ...So, Modernity we are not allowed to criticise the Dalai Lama now, only the Chinese government?<br><br>"no more Sharon Stone jokes, no more tosh about the re-imposition of feudalism, etc"<br><br>More Sharon jokes please and why is it tosh to discuss feudalism..? <br><br>Sometimes, you know, the fact you bleat about Tibet yet have an political blind spot when it comes to Palestine.Louisefeministahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08279991897445225597noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1244044300216345080.post-47562813915993364032008-06-04T21:04:00.000+01:002008-06-04T21:04:00.000+01:00You can wag your little finger all you like, Mod, ...You can wag your little finger all you like, Mod, having located your inner district organiser. I'd have preferred a debate.<br><br>A Hollywood celeb made a stupidly cruel comment that's typical of many all over the net in the wake of the earthquake. That is something that should be challenged. <br><br>Whatever you think of the Chinese government, I'd have expected you as a socialist to agree that the superstitious assertion that tens of thousands of innocent Chinese got their just desserts is unacceptable.Madam Miaowhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10237951918529887305noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1244044300216345080.post-35463102754343591562008-06-04T20:40:00.000+01:002008-06-04T20:40:00.000+01:00whenever the topic of Tibet comes up there is alwa...whenever the topic of Tibet comes up there is always some glib or snidey comment about the Dalai Lama, which nicely sidesteps the need to understand and appreciate the extent of the brutal Chinese rule in Tibet<br><br>concentrating on the Dalai Lama is a simple way of avoiding the issue of the Chinese conquest of Tibet, the rape of raw materials and the colonisation<br><br>the worst thing that could happen is for the Dalai Lama to die, because then there wouldn't be any way to smear, laugh at or joke about Tibetans living under foreign occupation<br><br>no more Sharon Stone jokes, no more tosh about the re-imposition of feudalism, etcModernityBloghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06354254639321208955noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1244044300216345080.post-21602314396683435662008-06-04T20:19:00.000+01:002008-06-04T20:19:00.000+01:00The guide, as it reads, is clearly wrong. What'...The guide, as it reads, is clearly wrong. What's glib in that?<br><br>There's loads of stuff the Chinese have to sort out. But, Mod, I'd rather be a Tibetan in Tibet than a Palestinian in your favourite region.Madam Miaowhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10237951918529887305noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1244044300216345080.post-12590095734398245792008-06-04T15:11:00.000+01:002008-06-04T15:11:00.000+01:00always some excuse or other isn't there?no mat...always some excuse or other isn't there?<br><br>no matter what the Chinese ruling class does, there would be some deflection, some mitigation, some glib comment, which didn't take the subject seriously, or the immense offence that it caused?<br><br>but should some half-witted actress with a vague attachment to the Dalai llama make a stupid and utterly insensitive remark, then whoosh, down on her like a ton of bricks?<br><br>and you can't see the anomaly?<br><br>Still let's not talk about the Tibetans, the real people suffering under brutal Chinese rule? Let's make a joke of it?**<br><br>** that's sarcasmModernityBloghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06354254639321208955noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1244044300216345080.post-40791727709039873002008-06-04T11:38:00.000+01:002008-06-04T11:38:00.000+01:00If the guide translation is correct, Mod, (and as ...If the guide translation is correct, Mod, (and as Norman Mailer said, nuance is everything) then that is indeed half-witted. But at least it shows they are on a steep learning curve. And you do point out that Deng Xiaoping's son has led the advance in this area.<br><br>The Chinese would probably have a thing or two to teach us about old people and children, though.Madam Miaowhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10237951918529887305noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1244044300216345080.post-87276090584772478652008-05-31T23:52:00.000+01:002008-05-31T23:52:00.000+01:00Great photo though - I think you should run a capt...Great photo though - I think you should run a caption competition!BrizBloggerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15454408029903005449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1244044300216345080.post-7605722868417360002008-05-31T11:09:00.000+01:002008-05-31T11:09:00.000+01:00What a daft woman.Actually, have we heard anything...What a daft woman.<br><br>Actually, have we heard anything from the Hollywood Dollyphiles about devoutly Buddhist Burma? It seems to have slipped under the radar.splinteredsunrisehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11512033657370443477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1244044300216345080.post-33391082737475339312008-05-30T21:05:00.000+01:002008-05-30T21:05:00.000+01:00"Louise and Oliver, as an actor, I hope no-on..."Louise and Oliver, as an actor, I hope no-one expects me to "shut the fuck up." :-)<br><br><br>Only Shazza and Richard. Actually can Richard G. just stop making films.....Louisefeministahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08279991897445225597noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1244044300216345080.post-42651559300786653822008-05-30T18:25:00.000+01:002008-05-30T18:25:00.000+01:00Dave, maybe the Dalai Lama losing his privileges i...Dave, maybe the Dalai Lama losing his privileges is karma for being the leader of a serf and slave-owning theocracy. Not that personally receiving $1.7 million from the US government is that much of a punishment.<br><br>Your link re karma and China: "Not only is the justice system harsh with ordinary criminals put to death for relatively small offences..."<br><br>Whereas feudal Tibet only had flayings, eye-gouging and amputations used as punishment and control over the 95 per cent of the population who were owned by DL's fellow elite.<br><br>"... Since most of the Chinese population appears to be supporting this oppression of minorities (though they may not know all the facts), it seems appropriate that ordinary people be affected by this natural disaster, perhaps it will help soften their attitude to Tibet and other minorities."<br><br>Blackmailing bunch of sad sickos.<br><br>Louise and Oliver, as an actor, I hope no-one expects me to "shut the fuck up." :-)Madam Miaowhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10237951918529887305noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1244044300216345080.post-23882800273571764502008-05-30T10:16:00.000+01:002008-05-30T10:16:00.000+01:00Dave,what did you do in a past life to come back a...Dave,<br><br>what did you do in a past life to come back as a numpty in this? (Numpty was me being polite, btw. I don't want to come back as a 'Dave' in my next life.)Darrenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04043116442576404667noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1244044300216345080.post-64935167259970876062008-05-30T02:45:00.000+01:002008-05-30T02:45:00.000+01:00Sharon Stone was quite correct about the earthquak...Sharon Stone was quite correct about the earthquake being caused by China's bad karma as a nation. Burma also has plenty has plenty of bad karma.<br><br>See more more info on group karma at http://www.sentforlife.com/karma.htmlDavehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18293154784599305286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1244044300216345080.post-73420617948327383312008-05-29T22:43:00.000+01:002008-05-29T22:43:00.000+01:00"BTW, I wonder if it's karma that's l..."BTW, I wonder if it's karma that's led to Sharon being dropped by Dior and China banning her films. There are more things in heaven and earth ..."<br><br>Well, as Shazza should know, what goes around comes around. Oh, and that other flipping luvvie, Richard Gere...He so pisses me off..<br><br>I kinda agree with Oliver, they really should have sumat written in their contracts, called "Shut the Fuck Up..."Louisefeministahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08279991897445225597noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1244044300216345080.post-43859096410384981732008-05-29T16:02:00.000+01:002008-05-29T16:02:00.000+01:00Doctors sign a Hippocratic oath before practicing ...Doctors sign a Hippocratic oath before practicing medicine. <br><br>Celebrities should have to sign a 'Shut the Fuck Up About Politics Oath' before they start practicing their art.Oliverhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15085577237625636631noreply@blogger.com