tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1244044300216345080.post1536949997916022286..comments2024-03-04T10:20:10.154+00:00Comments on Anna Chen: Madam Miaow Says: Madam Miaow on the radio: the year of the "Genocide Olympics"Madam Miaowhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10237951918529887305noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1244044300216345080.post-43490895135618841712008-08-22T03:24:00.000+01:002008-08-22T03:24:00.000+01:00This organ harvesting thing is a bit of a joke. F...This organ harvesting thing is a bit of a joke. <br><br>Firstly, let's have a look at it mathemtically:<br><br>According to certain groups, over 100,000 people are executed in China every year for their organs. And in a XXX report, organs cost between 50 to 100,000 pounds - depending on which organ. Using the lower figure, therefore, annually China receives over 5,000,000,000 pounds year in organ harvesting! And how the hell can you hide/transfer that amount of money?<br><br>Secondly, If anyone bothered to look at the different lists of people waiting for organ transplants around the world, you will find that the list continues to grow every year. This means that if there was this so-called organ harvesting it must be a very very very very very small harvet as it is making zero impact!<br><br>I conclude that I do not refute that the practice does not exist. In fact I beleive that it does, and not just in China. Human greed make it such that we do do these things for our own gains. It is sickening.Honhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10590028761498574612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1244044300216345080.post-65066289309498935912008-08-08T15:16:00.000+01:002008-08-08T15:16:00.000+01:00"It would have added some credibility."f..."It would have added some credibility."<br><br>faces or not<br><br>does that detract from the plight of Tibetans? <br><br>no, of course, not<br><br>ever consider that maybe those "faces" are a bit scared of the Beijing dictatorship and the ramifications of protesting? <br><br>maybe there's more than one reason for these things?ModernityBloghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06354254639321208955noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1244044300216345080.post-49357361648675232352008-08-08T10:15:00.000+01:002008-08-08T10:15:00.000+01:00Few weeks ago there was a small demo against Mugab...Few weeks ago there was a small demo against Mugabe in Belfast. I thought it was great, and the best thing was that the Zimbabwean refugees had organised it themselves.<br><br>Yesterday I passed by an Amnesty demo over human rights in China. I'm sure their hearts are in the right place, but in a city with a big Chinese community it would have been nice if there were at least one or two Chinese faces there. It would have added some credibility. But I didn't see any.splinteredsunrisehttp://splinteredsunrise.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1244044300216345080.post-32723312459557583642008-08-06T18:36:00.000+01:002008-08-06T18:36:00.000+01:00pretty dodgy comparison, still if enough mud is th...pretty dodgy comparison, still if enough mud is thrown around maybe it will distract?<br><br>a very poor political argument, akin to the SWP's "oi, look over there!" tactic<br><br>good about the protest tho, not they'll get much publicity tho <br><br>let's have a few more rants about the Dali Lama, that way you don't have to think of Tibetans as real people :)ModernityBloghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06354254639321208955noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1244044300216345080.post-62167096474585774042008-08-04T17:13:00.000+01:002008-08-04T17:13:00.000+01:00Butterflywings,Is China oppressive? Yes, sadly, it...Butterflywings,<br><br>Is China oppressive? Yes, sadly, it is. And for those of us who hoped China's socialist aspect would win out and offer a beacon to the rest of the world, that is a bitter pill to swallow.<br><br>There are valid criticisms due. The death penalty, organ harvesting, corruption, the fact that individuals can become not only millionaires but billionaires off the labour of others is an affront to everything I believe in.<br><br>However ...<br><br>1) GCHQ is not accountable to you or to me. <br><br>2) The Chinese government may be paranoid and brutal but the term "genocide". Does not fit. There is no industrialised wiping out of a people based on their race. The Jews weren't taught their own language in state schools, if there had been a one-child policy in Germany I doubt the Jews would have been exempt from that as the Tibetans are. I have no sympathy for the Tibetan theocratic elite who owned 95 percent of their fellow Tibetans and denied them human rights. But, yes, I'd like to see the Tibetans people enjoying greater autonomy and having their grievances heard.<br><br>3) Torture is wrong, vile, sadistic and futile. China should end it, and the West should stop waterboarding and sending its opponents under rendition to regimes which carry out our torture for us. <br><br>I object to the West's hypocrisy, the use of China's faults as a diversion from huge changes for the worse in our bit of the planet, and the blatantly xenophobic and racist tone of much of the ranting.<br><br>Thank you for at least making it clear in your last sentence that you are not coming from that space.Madam Miaowhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10237951918529887305noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1244044300216345080.post-33014178675089527302008-08-04T14:10:00.000+01:002008-08-04T14:10:00.000+01:00Wow.Yes that may be paranoid about the mobile phon...Wow.<br><br>Yes that may be paranoid about the mobile phones...but it is a fact. The Chinese govt. MIGHT listen in, espacillay to prominent people such as politicians and athletes. Unlike GCHQ etc. they are NOT accountable as to who, when and why and what they do with that information. Would it not be irresponsible to NOT warn them to be careful, and have someone arrested?<br><br>And using the Holocaust to dismiss any other genocide is just sick. Sick. I too know people who lost family to the Holocaust. This is NOT to say Jews do not deserve their own voice and space to remember, but to say nothing that can ever happen is as bad...is an insult to the memory of those who died in ALL genocides and their loved ones. <br><br>You remember your post on Israeli army shooting? "How dare you single out Israel, when OTHER countries do bad stuff TOO and IRAQ!" would sound moronic, no?<br><br>Read Isabel Losada's For Tibet With Love.<br><br>Read accounts of people tortured with electrodes to their genitals. They die. Or are never the same again. I was shaking after reading that.<br><br>China is an oppressor.<br><br>Not YOU, not Chinese PEOPLE or Chinese culture, but China.butterflywingshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16873407072604417252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1244044300216345080.post-56001153010271227852008-08-04T12:45:00.000+01:002008-08-04T12:45:00.000+01:00How did it go on the radio..?Aint is all precisely...How did it go on the radio..?<br><br>Aint is all precisely a joke as look at the war-mongering jokers such as Bliar etc etc and 2012...deffo be well out of London when that elitist jamboree happens.<br><br>Did you see the report on the news last wk about MI5 telling politicians and athletes not to use their mobile phones as the Chinese secret service will be listening in..?<br><br>Er, not like MI5 listen in to anyone or maybe they could explain the function of GCHQ ..... Oh but it is all about democracy cos we live in one apparently (unlike the "totalitarianism" of China...according to Geoffrey Howe!!)<br><br>and cos the Americans have a written constitution they can't listen in to their citizens so they by-pass that and get GCHQ to listen in instead....Good old Brits..<br><br>Oh, the hypocrisy.....and the utter cheekharpymarxhttp://harpymarx.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1244044300216345080.post-87792212273064568642008-08-04T12:25:00.000+01:002008-08-04T12:25:00.000+01:00Just the way you'd choose to spend a restful S...Just the way you'd choose to spend a restful Sunday evening, talking to Angry Steve...<br><br>Where do these people come from? Nick Clegg? Saints preserve us.splinteredsunrisehttp://splinteredsunrise.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.com